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Post by hitnrun24 on May 5, 2022 15:18:41 GMT -8
But when he's healthy ... When was that? The answer is never. He's never been fully health. Ever. Not for a full NBA season. Not for a full College basketball season. He's never been healthy for a full season in his entire life. Which is why he's even remotely gettable. 22 year olds with that talent are never available, and I don't know how available he even is, otherwise. There's risk though for sure. He's such a hard guy to put a trade value on because we're also in our contending window, but if the options are trading George for Zion or for Darius Garland for instance that would be a real conversation. If this turns out to be just an early career hiccup for Zion, you win big. If not, and I agree odds are more likely that he at least is a pretty injury prone player at this point, then it's not the right move for a team like the Clippers. If I was a lottery team (not Clippers lottery due to injury) then I'd be very willing to take that bet.
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Post by dane on May 5, 2022 15:53:58 GMT -8
Was it Churchill who advised that when you are suspected of being a dick-head troll, it's best to keep silent, lest you post something and remove all doubt?
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Post by samiam19 on May 5, 2022 16:06:00 GMT -8
Was it Churchill who advised that when you are suspected of being a dick-head troll, it's best to keep silent, lest you post something and remove all doubt? Well clearly someone is not taking their advice...
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Post by mistwell on May 5, 2022 17:02:04 GMT -8
If Zion were selected 30th instead of first, (ahead of Ja Morant) would anyone even be talking about him right now? I mean, he's played 85 games in three years (three more than Greg Oden played). The news in February was he might even need a second surgery on this latest injury.
However you feel about Paul George, I genuinely believe you can do much better for him than Zion. Even if you think you'd be conning some other team because they bought into false hype about Paul George (a view I don't agree with) I think you could do better than Zion. Zion is such damaged goods, he could be had for less than Paul George. There is a very good reason they're not offering him a full extension. And a very good reason just about any team in the league WOULD offer Paul George a full extension - even if it was just to trade him like we did with Blake Griffin. It's just bad asset management, if nothing else, to trade Paul George for Zion Williamson.
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Post by corkscrew on May 5, 2022 17:39:55 GMT -8
You don’t have to worry about that happening to you. no I'm sure corkscrew grouped me with you once because I wasn't Left enough for him You haven’t the foggiest idea what the right to left ideological political spectrum is, not the foggiest. You are tribal and reactive and you think that places you somewhere in that spectrum. It does not. In that respect, yes, you and Tullabye are cut from the same cloth. But that makes you two neither progressive nor conservative, just misanthropically tribal with self-imposed blinders.
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Post by tullabye on May 5, 2022 19:54:14 GMT -8
no I'm sure corkscrew grouped me with you once because I wasn't Left enough for him You haven’t the foggiest idea what the right to left ideological political spectrum is, not the foggiest. You are tribal and reactive and you think that places you somewhere in that spectrum. It does not. In that respect, yes, you and Tullabye are cut from the same cloth. But that makes you two neither progressive nor conservative, just misanthropically tribal with self-imposed blinders. You just knew Captain Snowflake Screwball herself just had to chime in. I guess she just couldn’t control the urge. What a loser. Now go back to your station and keep polishing that phony “elite” badge of honor you so badly want to wear.
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Post by samiam19 on May 6, 2022 6:32:11 GMT -8
You haven’t the foggiest idea what the right to left ideological political spectrum is, not the foggiest. You are tribal and reactive and you think that places you somewhere in that spectrum. It does not. In that respect, yes, you and Tullabye are cut from the same cloth. But that makes you two neither progressive nor conservative, just misanthropically tribal with self-imposed blinders. You just knew Captain Snowflake Screwball herself just had to chime in. I guess she just couldn’t control the urge. What a loser. Now go back to your station and keep polishing that phony “elite” badge of honor you so badly want to wear. HOW DARE YOU ASSUME CORKSCREWS GENDER! @nuraman at the behest of Corkscrew, can you add an option or make it a requirement for every member on this forum to post their prefered pronouns in order to prevent a PR disaster with the Social Justice Warriors
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Post by clipanswerman on May 6, 2022 7:57:36 GMT -8
But when he's healthy ... When was that? The answer is never. He's never been fully health. Ever. Not for a full NBA season. Not for a full College basketball season. He's never been healthy for a full season in his entire life. He played 61 games last year (year before this season) You know who's never played as many as 61 games in any of his three seasons with the Clips? Paul George. In those 61 games last year, Zion averaged 27 points per game - on 61% fg shooting. (Paul George shot 42% last year). Zion's also a better rebounder than Paul George. Zion's PER in that season was 27.1. PG's PER this past season - Mr. Healthy played only 31 games - was 18.7. So, yeah, Zion would be talked about if he was picked 30. And I'm pretty sure any contract New Orleans or any other team offers him, would be based on what they think he's worth going forward. No one cares where he was drafted.
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Post by trapp76 on May 6, 2022 16:13:38 GMT -8
….. a link to a thread where several posters implore you to get psychological help is probably not the best way to make me look bad.
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Post by trapp76 on May 6, 2022 16:15:05 GMT -8
Was it Churchill who advised that when you are suspected of being a dick-head troll, it's best to keep silent, lest you post something and remove all doubt? Well clearly someone is not taking their advice... Clearly….
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Post by corkscrew on May 6, 2022 23:08:52 GMT -8
You haven’t the foggiest idea what the right to left ideological political spectrum is, not the foggiest. You are tribal and reactive and you think that places you somewhere in that spectrum. It does not. In that respect, yes, you and Tullabye are cut from the same cloth. But that makes you two neither progressive nor conservative, just misanthropically tribal with self-imposed blinders. You just knew Captain Snowflake Screwball herself just had to chime in. I guess she just couldn’t control the urge. What a loser. Now go back to your station and keep polishing that phony “elite” badge of honor you so badly want to wear. That touched a nerve, did it? What part poked at your self-image? The part that you are tribal? The part that you are reactive? Or is it the part about your being cut from the same cloth as Samiam? Tell you what, you want to vex me? Referring to me in the feminine gender will not do it, it just exposes your crisis of imagination. Why don’t you humiliate me by demonstrating that you are neither tribal nor reactive. Make your case, put me to shame. Tell us all how you are a conscientious conservative thinker and that you really understand what conservatism really is. If you’re not capable of doing that, you can come polish my shoes as well as my elite badge for me. I’ll tip you handsomely, I promise.
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Post by corkscrew on May 6, 2022 23:09:28 GMT -8
You just knew Captain Snowflake Screwball herself just had to chime in. I guess she just couldn’t control the urge. What a loser. Now go back to your station and keep polishing that phony “elite” badge of honor you so badly want to wear. HOW DARE YOU ASSUME CORKSCREWS GENDER! @nuraman at the behest of Corkscrew, can you add an option or make it a requirement for every member on this forum to post their prefered pronouns in order to prevent a PR disaster with the Social Justice Warriors The extraordinary thing about this is that you actually responded by confirming my observations about you, as if you’ve been programmed or something, right on cue. Mocking non-binary genders, thinking you are being clever, actually demonstrates your misanthropic view of the world, and your refusal to see any further than the tip of your nose. The CDC reports that about half of LGBTQ teens seriously consider suicide and about 1 in 4 actually attempt it. 1 in 4! Seeing that as tragic is not conservative nor liberal — or libfart as you have called it — not right or left. It is a human issue. A matter of simple, common decency to view these facts with compassion. Yet, that is what you choose to mock. That is your response when I make the observation that you are a misanthrope. The level of awareness about yourself and your behavior is nothing short of astounding.
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Post by clipanswerman on May 7, 2022 7:17:28 GMT -8
….. a link to a thread where several posters implore you to get psychological help is probably not the best way to make me look bad. It certainly is, because as pointed out in the thread, "After a thread in which over several posts, Trapp called me a ‘cry baby bitch; a sad, pathetic, creepy old dope; a creepy old bastard’ and used homophobic mocking terms such as ‘sweetheart’, Rhy says he’s concerned about the mental health of …. me." But more importantly, it's funny because it referenced this idiotic, inane post from you: Trapp mocking the Clipanswerman for saying Kennard is a great three-point shooter and sneering that ‘the only reason Kennard hits threes is because Paul George gets double teamed and finds Kennard.’ After Paul George’s injury, Kennard goes on to lead the league in 3-point percentage and knocks down 186 threes on the season. And this idiotic, inane but hilarious one from you: Trapp insists that Paul George is ‘a great 3 point shooter.’ He finishes the season 10th in three point shooting percentage. Not in the league. On the team. To be fair, not all of the idiotic posts in that thread were from you. There was this hilarious one from 'another poster': Nuraman proving and proclaiming that ‘CAM is a Liar! He said that Trapp stopped posting because he was embarrassed at how poorly Paul George played in the first two games of the Dallas series. Liar! Trapp stopped posting because he was embarrassed at how poorly Paul George played in the first THREE games of the Dallas series.’ Now those are 'dumb' posts.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2022 9:04:05 GMT -8
Wow, this thread really went off the rails! This is like a WWE Battle Royale with several different fights going on at once. My money is on Andre the Giant.
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Post by samiam19 on May 7, 2022 12:37:52 GMT -8
HOW DARE YOU ASSUME CORKSCREWS GENDER! @nuraman at the behest of Corkscrew, can you add an option or make it a requirement for every member on this forum to post their prefered pronouns in order to prevent a PR disaster with the Social Justice Warriors The extraordinary thing about this is that you actually responded by confirming my observations about you, as if you’ve been programmed or something, right on cue. Mocking non-binary genders, thinking you are being clever, actually demonstrates your misanthropic view of the world, and your refusal to see any further than the tip of your nose. The CDC reports that about half of LGBTQ teens seriously consider suicide and about 1 in 4 actually attempt it. 1 in 4! Seeing that as tragic is not conservative nor liberal — or libfart as you have called it — not right or left. It is a human issue. A matter of simple, common decency to view these facts with compassion. Yet, that is what you choose to mock. That is your response when I make the observation that you are a misanthrope. The level of awareness about yourself and your behavior is nothing short of astounding. Jesus Christ I try to fix a problem by having pronouns added and you have to over step me. Typical selfish justice warrior behavior
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