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Post by clipanswerman on Oct 2, 2023 10:02:45 GMT -8
What the hell do you mean "too soon"? Too soon for what? Ughh... It’s unreal how dazed and confused you leftists are. You are ego worshippers that are completely blind to the truth and will sit back and numbly watch as everything this country has fought for disintegrates. You mention a rape that almost certainly didn’t happen but nothing of the crap permeating our schools. Porn, male dancers, CRT and gender transition have taken over. There is a globalist agenda that is bankrupting this country and if left up to them they will be in total control of our lives. It’s no joke dude. The shit is hitting the fan and there’s really only one guy in their way. That is the only reason why the hit job is being conducted while the installed corrupt supposed leader sells out our nation. Wake up. Actually, Trump is Transgender. He's a dick AND a pussy.
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Post by mistwell on Oct 2, 2023 13:43:25 GMT -8
What the hell do you mean "too soon"? Too soon for what? Ughh... It’s unreal how dazed and confused you leftists are. You are ego worshippers that are completely blind to the truth and will sit back and numbly watch as everything this country has fought for disintegrates. You mention a rape that almost certainly didn’t happen but nothing of the crap permeating our schools. Porn, male dancers, CRT and gender transition have taken over. There is a globalist agenda that is bankrupting this country and if left up to them they will be in total control of our lives. It’s no joke dude. The shit is hitting the fan and there’s really only one guy in their way. That is the only reason why the hit job is being conducted while the installed corrupt supposed leader sells out our nation. Wake up. Male dancers? WTF are you going off about with that?
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Post by corkscrew on Oct 2, 2023 13:56:47 GMT -8
What the hell do you mean "too soon"? Too soon for what? Ughh... It’s unreal how dazed and confused you leftists are. You are ego worshippers that are completely blind to the truth and will sit back and numbly watch as everything this country has fought for disintegrates. You mention a rape that almost certainly didn’t happen but nothing of the crap permeating our schools. Porn, male dancers, CRT and gender transition have taken over. There is a globalist agenda that is bankrupting this country and if left up to them they will be in total control of our lives. It’s no joke dude. The shit is hitting the fan and there’s really only one guy in their way. That is the only reason why the hit job is being conducted while the installed corrupt supposed leader sells out our nation. Wake up. Of the three issues I mentioned you only addressed one, the rape issue, which you said “ almost certainly didn’t happen”. So on this issue, you are not definitively saying he didn’t do it. You were silent on the other two issues, the “ grab them by the pussy” issue and the “ sex with a porn star” issue. So by your silence, can I assume you think the last two did happen and we are both on the same page on these? Again, I am trying to ascertain the difference between your source of information and mine.
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Post by clipanswerman on Oct 2, 2023 14:07:18 GMT -8
Let's add a few:
Made fun of a reporter's physical disability.
Mocked 82 year-old Paul Pelosi whose skull was fractured by a Trump supporter with a hammer who had broken into Pelosi's home.
Mocked those in the military as 'suckers and losers'.
Mocked a 16 year old girl's autism.
What Trump supporters like Tullabye don't get is - irrespective of politics and the false equivalences he raises - is the the issue of what is basic human decency. If you support Trump, then you accept all of the disgusting things he's done. And that's unacceptable. If you support Trump, at some level, you're simply an ignorant asshole.
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Post by clipanswerman on Oct 2, 2023 14:08:56 GMT -8
The hypocrisy is overwhelming.
Tullabye thinks Trump should have been impeached because of a consensual sexual relationship but thinks Trump should be elected President despite a consensual sexual relationship.
I could literally list 1,000 other examples of hypocrisy by Trump supporters because they really have no principles except to support Trump. Like a cult.
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Post by corkscrew on Oct 2, 2023 14:27:24 GMT -8
Let's add a few:Made fun of a reporter's physical disability. Mocked 82 year-old Paul Pelosi whose skull was fractured by a Trump supporter with a hammer who had broken into Pelosi's home. Mocked those in the military as 'suckers and losers'. Mocked a 16 year old girl's autism. What Trump supporters like Tullabye don't get is - irrespective of politics and the false equivalences he raises - is the the issue of what is basic human decency. If you support Trump, then you accept all of the disgusting things he's done. And that's unacceptable. If you support Trump, at some level, you're simply an ignorant asshole. We can keep adding all day long, there is no end to that list. But specifically, in drawing a comparison/contrast with Josh Primo’s flashing, I stuck to sexually related issues that surfaced before the 2016 election, and which did not prevent Trump from getting elected. I’m trying to keep it narrow and specific in order to explore Tullabye’s View. I am keenly interested in understanding how he arrives at the conclusions that make up his views.
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Post by mistwell on Oct 3, 2023 5:46:16 GMT -8
Josh Primo played 50 games in his rookie year (started 16). About 1000 minutes. From that sample: PER of 7.1. True shooting percentage of 49%, FG% 37%, 3PT% 31%. Box Plus/Minus of -5. Value Over Replacement Player of 0.7. Rebounds per 36 minutes: 4. Assists per 36 minutes: 3. Turnovers per 36 minutes: 2. Fouls per 36 minutes: 3. Points per 36 minutes: 11.
None of this is particularly impressive. San Antonio clearly gave him a real chance, and not much came of it.
And recall we have a gut of guards, and Ty Lue insists on playing more guards than he should with his small ball lineups. Of our young players, most are already guards like Bones, Boston, Jordan Miller, and Xavier Moon. So in terms of "young players to develop" it's not like we NEED another young guard to develop and if we want other young players we could actually use some wings and bigs on that front more than guards.
I just don't see the basketball reasons to pick this kid up aside from "He was a high pick" and "San Antonio usually picks well" and "everyone deserves a second chance." None of which is really a basketball reason.
It's a no from me.
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Post by basketcase on Oct 3, 2023 13:01:54 GMT -8
What the hell do you mean "too soon"? Too soon for what? Ughh... It’s unreal how dazed and confused you leftists are. You are ego worshippers that are completely blind to the truth and will sit back and numbly watch as everything this country has fought for disintegrates. You mention a rape that almost certainly didn’t happen but nothing of the crap permeating our schools. Porn, male dancers, CRT and gender transition have taken over. There is a globalist agenda that is bankrupting this country and if left up to them they will be in total control of our lives. It’s no joke dude. The shit is hitting the fan and there’s really only one guy in their way. That is the only reason why the hit job is being conducted while the installed corrupt supposed leader sells out our nation. Wake up. Seems like a parody of every right wing/Q conspiracy.
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Post by mistwell on Oct 3, 2023 14:18:29 GMT -8
It’s unreal how dazed and confused you leftists are. You are ego worshippers that are completely blind to the truth and will sit back and numbly watch as everything this country has fought for disintegrates. You mention a rape that almost certainly didn’t happen but nothing of the crap permeating our schools. Porn, male dancers, CRT and gender transition have taken over. There is a globalist agenda that is bankrupting this country and if left up to them they will be in total control of our lives. It’s no joke dude. The shit is hitting the fan and there’s really only one guy in their way. That is the only reason why the hit job is being conducted while the installed corrupt supposed leader sells out our nation. Wake up. Seems like a parody of every right wing/Q conspiracy. Yes, he's a nut.
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Post by corkscrew on Oct 3, 2023 16:36:05 GMT -8
Seems like a parody of every right wing/Q conspiracy. Yes, he's a nut. No he’s not. In every other conversation he is perfectly coherent and thought out. We may agree or disagree with him on issues other than MAGA, but he is well reasoned and well thought out. It’s just that when it comes to politics and MAGA issues, he might as well be a member of a different species. These three sentences he wrote, “ There is a globalist agenda that is bankrupting this country and if left up to them they will be in total control of our lives. It’s no joke dude. The shit is hitting the fan and there’s really only one guy in their way.” is almost verbatim what Trump has been drumming into his followers’ brains. — “I alone can fix it” — “I am your retribution” — “They’re coming after me because they want to come after you and I am in the way”So to me, the way I see it, it is either hypnosis or cult adherence. And since it is clearly not hypnosis, cult adherence is the only explanation I can come up with unless I am shown another possibility. Hence, I want him to explain the mechanics of his reasoning and how he arrives at his opinions. But nuts, he is not. (BTW, when you look at the rise of other authoritarians in history, you find the identical pattern in achieving power: Use rhetoric to divide and pit one group against another and demonize the media that can verify and mitigate your message. That done, you can now infuse all sorts of paranoia with conspiracy narratives. Mussolini, Franco, Stalin, Hitler, Orban, Putin, the list goes on — they all followed the same pattern. And their followers were not nuts.)
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Post by mistwell on Oct 3, 2023 20:33:56 GMT -8
No he’s not. In every other conversation he is perfectly coherent and thought out. We may agree or disagree with him on issues other than MAGA, but he is well reasoned and well thought out. It’s just that when it comes to politics and MAGA issues, he might as well be a member of a different species. These three sentences he wrote, “ There is a globalist agenda that is bankrupting this country and if left up to them they will be in total control of our lives. It’s no joke dude. The shit is hitting the fan and there’s really only one guy in their way.” is almost verbatim what Trump has been drumming into his followers’ brains. — “I alone can fix it” — “I am your retribution” — “They’re coming after me because they want to come after you and I am in the way”So to me, the way I see it, it is either hypnosis or cult adherence. And since it is clearly not hypnosis, cult adherence is the only explanation I can come up with unless I am shown another possibility. Hence, I want him to explain the mechanics of his reasoning and how he arrives at his opinions. But nuts, he is not. (BTW, when you look at the rise of other authoritarians in history, you find the identical pattern in achieving power: Use rhetoric to divide and pit one group against another and demonize the media that can verify and mitigate your message. That done, you can now infuse all sorts of paranoia with conspiracy narratives. Mussolini, Franco, Stalin, Hitler, Orban, Putin, the list goes on — they all followed the same pattern. And their followers were not nuts.) OK call it what you want. Cultist, brainwashed, conspiracy theorist, whatever. I feel it's fair to broadly sweep all of that into "nutty".
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Post by dane on Oct 4, 2023 2:46:46 GMT -8
To paraphrase Richard Feynman, when what you're discussing or arguing about is only the name for things, you're not talking about anything.
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Post by gilp5 on Oct 4, 2023 8:14:29 GMT -8
How did this get hijacked into politics? Most of us don't come here to discuss politics.
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Post by dane on Oct 4, 2023 8:57:17 GMT -8
deadspin.com/nba-misconduct-women-josh-primo-1850895058 The most striking detail here is Cousins' casualy explanation of threatening to put a bullet in the head of his ex and returning with a gun. He admits his mistake, saying, You know "We've all done it." ? I believe I can say without fear of contradiction that I have NEVER offered to put a bullet in the head of an ex. You?
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Post by mistwell on Oct 4, 2023 9:23:00 GMT -8
deadspin.com/nba-misconduct-women-josh-primo-1850895058 The most striking detail here is Cousins' casualy explanation of threatening to put a bullet in the head of his ex and returning with a gun. He admits his mistake, saying, You know "We've all done it." ? I believe I can say without fear of contradiction that I have NEVER offered to put a bullet in the head of an ex. You? All my ex's are genuinely good people who I feel no ill will towards. On some level I still communicate with most of them a few times a year. Though several I have no contact with for no reason other that time and distance.
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