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Post by nuraman00 on Jan 4, 2024 22:15:11 GMT -8
No time table. It's a super delicate psychology job. He's been wounded so he's now reactive on top of his warrior foundation. I have to take off the broken glass without losing the hard edge. And I have to put silvidine on the angry monster's neck wound twice a day. Thanks for sharing.
I always like learning some real life stuff, from you.
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Post by hitnrun24 on Jan 5, 2024 11:41:47 GMT -8
Wembanyama's block on Giannis was pretty incredible. Pretty amazing rookie year. When they surround him with more talent, look out.
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Post by corkscrew on Jan 5, 2024 12:16:34 GMT -8
Wembanyama's block on Giannis was pretty incredible. Pretty amazing rookie year. When they surround him with more talent, look out. 12 years ago, Indiana wanted George Hill so they traded their 15th pick (Kawhi) to San Antonio for George Hill. Today, San Antonio should ask Indiana what they want, other than Wemby, in return for Haliburton — and give them whatever they want, including the kitchen sink. Short of that, figure out how and where to get a quality playmaker PG to take some of the focus off of Wemby and allow him to wreak havoc on the opponents. |
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Post by nuraman00 on Jan 5, 2024 13:25:35 GMT -8
I had said so at the time in 2022, but I thought Sacramento should have given up lightly protected first round draft picks for Sabonis, and kept Haliburton. This was before the Gobert trade, so 2 first round picks should have done it.
Between Turner or Sabonis, Indiana was probably going to move one of them at the 2022 trading deadline, so whichever one they dealt, I thought Sacramento could have gotten them and given up draft picks instead.
I had latched onto Haliburton early in his rookie year, since his playmaking was just different from most NBA players. I didn't think he'd average more than 21 ppg, but he has.
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Post by hitnrun24 on Jan 5, 2024 22:51:10 GMT -8
I had said so at the time in 2022, but I thought Sacramento should have given up lightly protected first round draft picks for Sabonis, and kept Haliburton. This was before the Gobert trade, so 2 first round picks should have done it. Between Turner or Sabonis, Indiana was probably going to move one of them at the 2022 trading deadline, so whichever one they dealt, I thought Sacramento could have gotten them and given up draft picks instead. I had latched onto Haliburton early in his rookie year, since his playmaking was just different from most NBA players. I didn't think he'd average more than 21 ppg, but he has. Yeah he looked good early. I still don't like the Sabonis trade for the Kings, even though the on court fit is a bit better. It still presents issues though because he can't defend and unless you have a 3 point shooting paint defender you'll get killed inside with Sabonis. Offensively, he's fantastic no doubt though. Haliburton and Fox probably couldn't have thrived together so it's kindof unfortunate. They didn't really need to rush it though. Haliburton now is worth so much more than what they gave up for him. Fox has taken huge leaps too. Both guys are awesome. |
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Post by nuraman00 on Jan 6, 2024 1:05:14 GMT -8
I had said so at the time in 2022, but I thought Sacramento should have given up lightly protected first round draft picks for Sabonis, and kept Haliburton. This was before the Gobert trade, so 2 first round picks should have done it. Between Turner or Sabonis, Indiana was probably going to move one of them at the 2022 trading deadline, so whichever one they dealt, I thought Sacramento could have gotten them and given up draft picks instead. I had latched onto Haliburton early in his rookie year, since his playmaking was just different from most NBA players. I didn't think he'd average more than 21 ppg, but he has. Yeah he looked good early. I still don't like the Sabonis trade for the Kings, even though the on court fit is a bit better. It still presents issues though because he can't defend and unless you have a 3 point shooting paint defender you'll get killed inside with Sabonis. Offensively, he's fantastic no doubt though. Haliburton and Fox probably couldn't have thrived together so it's kindof unfortunate. They didn't really need to rush it though. Haliburton now is worth so much more than what they gave up for him. Fox has taken huge leaps too. Both guys are awesome.I think they could have, but it would have taken more than the number of games they'd played together.
They played 91 games together.
The Kings need a power forward, and SG, that can defend. With the Sabonis team. Probably even if they hadn't made the trade, they would have needed those attributes too.
Since 2021-2022, Fox has increased his assists, reduced his turnovers, and improved his shooting, and his defense. It's rare for a player to do that, especially one that had already played so much in his first five years.
I think Haliburton and Fox could have played together, the same way Monk and Fox do. Fox needed to improve those things that he eventually did, for any guard to play next to him.
As you said, they didn't need to rush it. Indiana was most likely going to salary dump someone between Turner and Sabonis, so draft picks (top 4 protected), Hield, likely would have done it. That still would have given Indiana some room to change their roster.
Going back to Haliburton's rookie year, there have been some criticisms of his defense. I don't think it's bad, considering that most of the league doesn't play defense. However Indiana was 25th in defense last year, and 26th this year. They are going to have to overcome that if they're going to win a playoffs series. Haliburton also seems to have that edge where he wants to improve, so it's possible his defense could still improve. Even though most NBA players don't really improve it.
Indiana has not won a playoffs series since 2014. Until they can do that, they haven't done anything. The same is said for Minnesota, Sacramento, Detroit, and any other team with a long series win drought. Detroit hasn't won a series since Chauncey Billups was on the team.
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