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Post by htownfan on Apr 22, 2019 16:55:26 GMT -8
Htown trying to pretend people claimed Lou Williams is a superstar who can carry a team alone like Harden. LOL. What a wanker. To even claim him as a superstar period is preposterous let alone carry a team......several folks here have referred to him as such.... |
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Post by htownfan on Apr 22, 2019 17:04:36 GMT -8
And here is where the "you need superstars" comment comes into play.....sure if KD and Kawhi are on the team it becomes much harder to focus on a Lou....but I will believe it when I see it when you guys acquire superstars......and don't forget that when your Rookies are getting better so are the rest of the league's young players so it isnt given they are gonna be superstars overnight either...see Donovan Mitchell.... And that’s one of the reasons why I think this season’s been a success. This roster looks really attractive for a star player looking to cement their legacy as a great. Some rookies get better, some get worse. Our former 1st overall pick put up numbers comparable to KAJ, Dream, Wilt, Timmy but his career became very meh. Shai looks like he’s not afraid of anyone or any moment, Sham has risin up and hit some huge shots. Even Rome has come around and played soon good ball. Oh no doubt this season was a success for you guys...I have said you are playing with house money and no expectations for the playoffs...Any success in the playoffs was gravy and great experience for the young talent.....Next year is gonna be different though with expectations and I am really curious to see if folks are really going to sign on the dotted line to play in Clipperland.... Kudos to a great season and I really mean that.. Doc should get votes for COTY....I love the optimism you have with your young talent but the sample size is still too small to say you have a superstar in the making but hey....its that hope that you hold onto because you don't anything else to hope for..... Utah fans have a legitimate talent who has proven himself in small sample only to get bounced(more than likely) in quick fashion by a much better team(twice potentially)...I am sure their fans were very optimistic about this season as well.... Just like I am very optimistic about our chances against Golden St especially with how close we were last year......thats what drives us as fans right? |
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Post by mistwell on Apr 22, 2019 17:11:51 GMT -8
Htown trying to pretend people claimed Lou Williams is a superstar who can carry a team alone like Harden. LOL. What a wanker. To even claim him as a superstar period is preposterous let alone carry a team...... several folks here have referred to him as such.... Who? Where? All we've been saying is he didn't disappear in the playoffs. Then you went off on a rant arguing with some fictional poster making outrageous claims about Lou Williams being a Harden-level superstar. It's bullshit. |
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Post by gilp5 on Apr 22, 2019 17:19:22 GMT -8
To even claim him as a superstar period is preposterous let alone carry a team...... several folks here have referred to him as such.... Who? Where? All we've been saying is he didn't disappear in the playoffs. Then you went off on a rant arguing with some fictional poster making outrageous claims about Lou Williams being a Harden-level superstar. It's bullshit. This is who said it - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man |
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Post by hitnrun24 on Apr 22, 2019 17:43:23 GMT -8
I give credit to Doc Rivers for knowing how to coach him. He can take a marginal player like Lou and turn him into a superstar. Lou is a playground player. Just like Jamal Crawford was for him. Doc makes him a point guard. Gives him the ball. And lets him do whatever he wants to do with it. And this season he perfected the pick and roll with Montrezl Harrell. Which turned two moderately talented NBA players into the most dynamic duo of players coming off the bench in NBA history. Now that is good coaching. All the other coaches were just inclined to trade Lou because all they got out of him was one dimensional scoring and no defense. Now he leads us in scoring and assists and he is making eight million a year. So saying Klay Thompson or Andre Iguodala can limit his production in the playoffs is basically saying the Warriors have to expend their best defensive players on somebody who essentially should be a role player. And even doing that he has still been a great playmaker. So saying he isn't getting his numbers show a complete lack of understanding as to what our team is all about. He is the best sixth man in the NBA. Period. Lou is the best right now but We talking about bench players...bench players...he is the best sixth man in the NBA right now because one reason is that two of the best moved into starting line-ups. they got starting jobs..one is a future HOFer that won 6th man early in his career and the other recently won it as well. It doesnt matter who has to guard Lou because for the Clippers as comprised he is not a role player..he is the leading scorer so of course those guys are going to appointed to stop...they not going to put scrubs on him..that would be ludicrous... Lou is no superstar and there's a reason he comes off the bench......16 and 12 last two games.... That's not a fair assessment at all. When you focus defensive attention on Paul, what are the consequences vs doing it to Lou? There are very few players you can't take out of the game if you really want to. It's what makes the Warriors so tough, if you sell out to stop Steph or KD you may even be able to but then you are going to get killed by the other guys. If you sell out to stop Lou, you can get the ball out of his hands and all he has is Harrell for an outlet. Obviously Harden is one of the rare guys you can't really do this too, but we're talking different levels of ability. |
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Post by htownfan on Apr 22, 2019 17:49:18 GMT -8
That's not a fair assessment at all. When you focus defensive attention on Paul, what are the consequences vs doing it to Lou? There are very few players you can't take out of the game if you really want to. It's what makes the Warriors so tough, if you sell out to stop Steph or KD you may even be able to but then you are going to get killed by the other guys. If you sell out to stop Lou, you can get the ball out of his hands and all he has is Harrell for an outlet. Obviously Harden is one of the rare guys you can't really do this too, but we're talking different levels of ability. I can agree with this take.....and its basically saying that Lou is not a superstar because we are talking about different levels of ability.... |
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Post by v-ice on Apr 22, 2019 18:29:25 GMT -8
And that’s one of the reasons why I think this season’s been a success. This roster looks really attractive for a star player looking to cement their legacy as a great. Some rookies get better, some get worse. Our former 1st overall pick put up numbers comparable to KAJ, Dream, Wilt, Timmy but his career became very meh. Shai looks like he’s not afraid of anyone or any moment, Sham has risin up and hit some huge shots. Even Rome has come around and played soon good ball. Oh no doubt this season was a success for you guys...I have said you are playing with house money and no expectations for the playoffs...Any success in the playoffs was gravy and great experience for the young talent.....Next year is gonna be different though with expectations and I am really curious to see if folks are really going to sign on the dotted line to play in Clipperland.... Kudos to a great season and I really mean that.. Doc should get votes for COTY....I love the optimism you have with your young talent but the sample size is still too small to say you have a superstar in the making but hey....its that hope that you hold onto because you don't anything else to hope for..... Utah fans have a legitimate talent who has proven himself in small sample only to get bounced(more than likely) in quick fashion by a much better team(twice potentially)...I am sure their fans were very optimistic about this season as well.... Just like I am very optimistic about our chances against Golden St especially with how close we were last year......thats what drives us as fans right? Our series not over. 3 more games to go... thank u for ur kind words. |
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Post by hitnrun24 on Apr 22, 2019 19:46:40 GMT -8
That's not a fair assessment at all. When you focus defensive attention on Paul, what are the consequences vs doing it to Lou? There are very few players you can't take out of the game if you really want to. It's what makes the Warriors so tough, if you sell out to stop Steph or KD you may even be able to but then you are going to get killed by the other guys. If you sell out to stop Lou, you can get the ball out of his hands and all he has is Harrell for an outlet. Obviously Harden is one of the rare guys you can't really do this too, but we're talking different levels of ability. I can agree with this take.....and its basically saying that Lou is not a superstar because we are talking about different levels of ability.... Was anyone comparing Lou to Harden or saying he is a superstar, but is it fair to compare an 8m per year guy to a 40m max player? The point is that Lou as a scorer is closer to that top tier excluding the very top guys. And there are probably even many guys making 20-30m who I'd take after Lou when it comes to elite creation in crunch time. Westbrook is probably a superstar in most peoples book, but I'd take Lou with the game on the line any day. |
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Post by htownfan on Apr 22, 2019 20:08:44 GMT -8
I can agree with this take.....and its basically saying that Lou is not a superstar because we are talking about different levels of ability.... Was anyone comparing Lou to Harden or saying he is a superstar, but is it fair to compare an 8m per year guy to a 40m max player? The point is that Lou as a scorer is closer to that top tier excluding the very top guys. And there are probably even many guys making 20-30m who I'd take after Lou when it comes to elite creation in crunch time. Westbrook is probably a superstar in most peoples book, but I'd take Lou with the game on the line any day. I am taking salaries out the equation....as bad as Westbrook shoots the ball and has shot the ball for his career I would still take chances with him with the game on the line 10 times out of 10 and I am a WB hater and think he is overrated....but because he has a much larger sample size in creating and hitting the big shot would still leave me to take WB over Lou....until the "1" game this year you can't tell me any memorable "Sweet Lou" playoff highlights.....I will sit and wait.... |
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Post by japkilla on Apr 22, 2019 21:40:52 GMT -8
Was anyone comparing Lou to Harden or saying he is a superstar, but is it fair to compare an 8m per year guy to a 40m max player? The point is that Lou as a scorer is closer to that top tier excluding the very top guys. And there are probably even many guys making 20-30m who I'd take after Lou when it comes to elite creation in crunch time. Westbrook is probably a superstar in most peoples book, but I'd take Lou with the game on the line any day. I am taking salaries out the equation....as bad as Westbrook shoots the ball and has shot the ball for his career I would still take chances with him with the game on the line 10 times out of 10 and I am a WB hater and think he is overrated....but because he has a much larger sample size in creating and hitting the big shot would still leave me to take WB over Lou....until the "1" game this year you can't tell me any memorable "Sweet Lou" playoff highlights.....I will sit and wait.... sorry ass troll htownfag still comes into clippertalk to talk shyt about clippers.. |
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Post by clipps on Apr 22, 2019 22:09:57 GMT -8
I am taking salaries out the equation....as bad as Westbrook shoots the ball and has shot the ball for his career I would still take chances with him with the game on the line 10 times out of 10 and I am a WB hater and think he is overrated....but because he has a much larger sample size in creating and hitting the big shot would still leave me to take WB over Lou....until the "1" game this year you can't tell me any memorable "Sweet Lou" playoff highlights.....I will sit and wait.... sorry ass troll htownfag still comes into clippertalk to talk shyt about clippers.. You're pissing off a lot of snowflakes, bruh. |
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Post by hitnrun24 on Apr 23, 2019 0:03:59 GMT -8
Was anyone comparing Lou to Harden or saying he is a superstar, but is it fair to compare an 8m per year guy to a 40m max player? The point is that Lou as a scorer is closer to that top tier excluding the very top guys. And there are probably even many guys making 20-30m who I'd take after Lou when it comes to elite creation in crunch time. Westbrook is probably a superstar in most peoples book, but I'd take Lou with the game on the line any day. I am taking salaries out the equation....as bad as Westbrook shoots the ball and has shot the ball for his career I would still take chances with him with the game on the line 10 times out of 10 and I am a WB hater and think he is overrated....but because he has a much larger sample size in creating and hitting the big shot would still leave me to take WB over Lou....until the "1" game this year you can't tell me any memorable "Sweet Lou" playoff highlights.....I will sit and wait.... I'm going on what they can do not what they have done. Career accomplishments will go to Russ hands down, but Lou hasn't been the prominent player on his team nearly enough to have those moments. I'm talking about if I'm coaching a game tomorrow give me Lou everytime without hesitation. |
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Post by htownfan on Apr 23, 2019 8:37:52 GMT -8
I am taking salaries out the equation....as bad as Westbrook shoots the ball and has shot the ball for his career I would still take chances with him with the game on the line 10 times out of 10 and I am a WB hater and think he is overrated....but because he has a much larger sample size in creating and hitting the big shot would still leave me to take WB over Lou....until the "1" game this year you can't tell me any memorable "Sweet Lou" playoff highlights.....I will sit and wait.... I'm going on what they can do not what they have done. Career accomplishments will go to Russ hands down, but Lou hasn't been the prominent player on his team nearly enough to have those moments. I'm talking about if I'm coaching a game tomorrow give me Lou everytime without hesitation. Then I guess it is more of a preference......If I am starting a team tomorrow I am definitely taking WB well before I take Lou...... |
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Post by clippers1121 on Apr 23, 2019 8:58:21 GMT -8
LA Times had an article on Westbrook today. Concession is he hurts his team by being too emotional. He shoots too much and tries to win the games by himself. And he isn't shooting the ball well enough to do that. Thunder look to go out in the first round for the third straight year. Teammates love his ferocity but it does not lend itself to team ball. The only thing I have against Russell is that he shoots a lot of bad threes based on emotion rather than trying to find the best shot for his team. I agree that I would not want him closing games for my team. I would rather have Lou.
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