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Post by trapp76 on Apr 23, 2019 13:38:28 GMT -8
Stephen A Smith: "I'm starting to believe that the #Clippers have a legitimate shot, better than 50% shot, at both Kawhi Leonard and Kevin Durant. I'm starting to believe that, based on what I'm hearing."
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Post by griffin5 on Apr 23, 2019 13:54:20 GMT -8
I can't stand that guy... but I like this statement. As long as the Lakers won't get anyone I'm happy.
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Post by clipps on Apr 23, 2019 14:00:11 GMT -8
It’s all speculation until the Clippers actually get someone. I’m all for KD and Kawhi if that happens. I’d love to see a starting lineup of Shai, Shamet, Kawhi, KD, and Trez with Pat, Rome, Lou, Zu and we’d be able to preserve Kahwi’s heath.
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Post by gilp5 on Apr 23, 2019 14:35:59 GMT -8
It’s all speculation until the Clippers actually get someone. I’m all for KD and Kawhi if that happens. I’d love to see a starting lineup of Shai, Shamet, Kawhi, KD, and Trez with Pat, Rome, Lou, Zu and we’d be able to preserve Kahwi’s heath. How do we make room for both? Getting rid of gallo, chandler, green, and temple wouldn't be enough, would it?
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Post by japkilla on Apr 23, 2019 15:10:10 GMT -8
To me its very simple
Plan A (shoot for the stars dream plan): Sign Kawhi, trade Gallo + SRP for S&T KD, S&T PatBev + Lou Will + SEGA (with SEGA's improvement might not need to throw in the 2021 MIA FRP) + PHI 2020 prot FRP for AD, sign best ring chasing PG for Room Exception (5ish mil), re-sign Zubac to a value deal starting at 5m
Plan B (realistic but needs some luck with KD's choice of spots to land at): Sign Kawhi, trade Gallo + 2 SRP for S&T KD, re-sign PatBev to value deal (8mil like Lou Will), try to resign Temple with remaining cap (prolly like 2-3mil tops), re-sign JaMychal Green with Room Exception, re-sign Zubac to a value deal starting at 5.5m
Plan C (1 superstar + solid FA signings) Sign Kawhi, re-sign PatBev (3 yr 27m), sign Nikola Vucevic or Jonas Valanciunus (3 yr 50m 3rd year Team Option), re-sign JaMychal Green with Room Exception, re-sign Zubac
Plan D (get no one): Clipper fanbase collectively cries and stops bothering to follow the Clippers since even in this ideal scenario they cant sign any top tier FAs.
Plan C's roster is intriguing
C - Vucevic, Zubac PF- Gallo, Harrell SF- Kawhi, Green SG- Shamet, Lou WIll, JRobinson PG- SEGA, PatBev
Lots of players on tradeable deals, which could be thrown together in a mid season deadline deal, while also having the PHI/MIA FRPs in the trade warchest.
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Post by trapp76 on Apr 23, 2019 16:43:40 GMT -8
It’s all speculation until the Clippers actually get someone. I’m all for KD and Kawhi if that happens. I’d love to see a starting lineup of Shai, Shamet, Kawhi, KD, and Trez with Pat, Rome, Lou, Zu and we’d be able to preserve Kahwi’s heath. How do we make room for both? Getting rid of gallo, chandler, green, and temple wouldn't be enough, would it? I think we can sign both and even keep Gallo. But we should trade him if we get KD and Kawhi .
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Post by hitnrun24 on Apr 23, 2019 20:23:02 GMT -8
I don't see KD coming here. As good as he is as a player I'd rather not have him and what he brings so I'd rather root for something else. I do want Kawhi though, he'd be a fantastic fit and I can see him fitting into what we have beautifully
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Post by mistwell on Apr 24, 2019 6:27:00 GMT -8
To sign two, we need to trade Gallinari. Either in a trade for one of them, or for a pick to a team under the cap.
The only other way to sign both would be for one or both to take a pay cut. Which seems very unlikely.
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Post by gilp5 on Apr 24, 2019 8:56:16 GMT -8
To sign two, we need to trade Gallinari. Either in a trade for one of them, or for a pick to a team under the cap. The only other way to sign both would be for one or both to take a pay cut. Which seems very unlikely. Assuming we trade Gallinari, can we sign both and still keep Beverley?
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Post by mistwell on Apr 24, 2019 10:58:51 GMT -8
To sign two, we need to trade Gallinari. Either in a trade for one of them, or for a pick to a team under the cap. The only other way to sign both would be for one or both to take a pay cut. Which seems very unlikely. Assuming we trade Gallinari, can we sign both and still keep Beverley? I think so. We have Beverley's bird rights, and his cap hold is not extreme.
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Post by clipps on Apr 24, 2019 12:05:00 GMT -8
We definitely need to keep Beverley on this roster.
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Post by dyce on Apr 25, 2019 7:30:26 GMT -8
To sign two, we need to trade Gallinari. Either in a trade for one of them, or for a pick to a team under the cap. The only other way to sign both would be for one or both to take a pay cut. Which seems very unlikely. Assuming we trade Gallinari, can we sign both and still keep Beverley? Yes. Assuming we're not taking back much salary when we trade Gallo. We currently have about 60 million in cap space for the summer. Trading Gallo for no salary brings us up to 83 million in cap space. Max for Durant and Kawhi is 38 million each. Leaves us about 7 million left for Beverley. We can probably clear another million or two if we release Thornwell or Wallace if need be.
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Post by v-ice on Apr 25, 2019 7:35:39 GMT -8
We getting both.
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Post by trapp76 on Apr 25, 2019 10:21:14 GMT -8
Yeah my numbers were off, we do have to trade Gallo to fit two max contracts in, but that should be easy, he’s a good player on a one year deal who can help a lot of teams. We can get as much as 83 mill in cap space if we trade Gallo, cut Thornwell and cut Wallace. As Dyce said, that would leave us 7 mill to bring back Beverley, should be enough I think.
After that we would have the room exception and the bi-annual exception to sign two more guys above min level. We also have a 9.8 mill TPE from the Harris trade till 2/6/20.
Zubac will be an RFA but his cap hold is small, we can go over the cap to re-sign him.
Rest of the roster has to be min contract guys or 2nd round picks (I think we have two 2nd rounders in the next draft).
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Post by hitnrun24 on Apr 25, 2019 11:25:50 GMT -8
Gallo is a good player, but he's not making 20m for a contending type team. I'd really prefer if we could deal him for some other stuff even if it has to be midseason.
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