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Post by v-ice on Feb 12, 2024 21:55:42 GMT -8
Bad match up for Clips are Wolves, Pelicans & Lakers. What do they all have in common? Big & Length.
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Post by corkscrew on Feb 12, 2024 21:56:33 GMT -8
We just can't hang with the big teams. Counting on tons of 3s is not a strategy. Tonight, I don't think they counted on 3's.
They took 28 out of 84 field goal attempts, 33.3%.
They average 33.3 3-point attempts per game, 18th in the league.
They average 38.2% 3 point rate, which is 15th in the league.
So tonight was fewer than their average.
I am not sure what today's pace rate was, relative to the normal game the Clippers play.
That's not what I meant. I mean the only times we have been able to beat the big teams is when we have rained 3s on them.
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Post by clipzfan611 on Feb 12, 2024 21:59:55 GMT -8
It helps that we're still predominantly a one-on-one team or resort to it even in lulls. And yes I know a lot of the NBA is like that now. And we do get away with it because of our talent.
Yep, which is fine as long as each guy is a threat but Lue is gonna have to have the hook on Russ when they choke out our offense. Kawhi and Harden have a guy hovering each time when Russ is in. They're playing him off the floor.
Agree. They also have length at every position and even on the bench which is a big reason their half court defense is so good. Need to move the ball around a bit more and get to the line.
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Post by hitnrun24 on Feb 12, 2024 22:21:57 GMT -8
Yep, which is fine as long as each guy is a threat but Lue is gonna have to have the hook on Russ when they choke out our offense. Kawhi and Harden have a guy hovering each time when Russ is in. They're playing him off the floor.
Agree. They also have length at every position and even on the bench which is a big reason their half court defense is so good. Need to move the ball around a bit more and get to the line.
Yeah. When Zu isn't on a min restriction he has to play 30-35 min against them and zero to little Russ. It's the half court offense killer when they funnel the defense to him. I don't want to live with his jump shot to win games. Theis is also not gonna work for them either. Too small for Gobert. Too stiff and small for Towns. Shit might even need Zu to play 40 min.
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Post by nuraman00 on Feb 12, 2024 22:42:02 GMT -8
Did Zubac get more of his rebounds after it was a 10+ point deficit?
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Post by clipanswerman on Feb 13, 2024 7:41:09 GMT -8
Just a wild-ass suggestion. Cut the small ball crap against this team. Play Zu 36 minutes and the other 12 minutes play Plumlee and Theis at the four. Less minutes to Paul George and TMann when we play them next.
You just can't change habits after so many years in the NBA. Jesus, Paul George's shot selection. And that ridiculous alley opp pass to TMann on the 2 on 1 fast break. Has anyone ever seen a star who simply cannot run a basic two on one fast break?
'CA suggested Paul George for Rudy Gobert last year!' - Mistwell.
Why would Westbrook ever try to go to the basket at 100 mph? Has he made a single layup like that this season? Can a team win a championship with two of the dumbest basketball players of all time?
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Post by tullabye on Feb 13, 2024 8:30:53 GMT -8
Just a wild-ass suggestion. Cut the small ball crap against this team. Play Zu 36 minutes and the other 12 minutes play Plumlee and Theis at the four. Less minutes to Paul George and TMann when we play them next. You just can't change habits after so many years in the NBA. Jesus, Paul George's shot selection. And that ridiculous alley opp pass to TMann on the 2 on 1 fast break. Has anyone ever seen a star who simply cannot run a basic two on one fast break? 'CA suggested Paul George for Rudy Gobert last year!' - Mistwell. Why would Westbrook ever try to go to the basket at 100 mph? Has he made a single layup like that this season? Can a team win a championship with two of the dumbest basketball players of all time? I’ve never seen Gobert look better than he did last night. Hell, he even knocked down all of his free throws.
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Post by dane on Feb 13, 2024 9:11:03 GMT -8
Bad match up for Clips are Wolves, Pelicans & Lakers. What do they all have in common? Big & Length. Yeah, but then, what are the chances that LAC has to meet any teams like that in the playoffs?
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Post by hitnrun24 on Feb 13, 2024 11:08:57 GMT -8
Just a wild-ass suggestion. Cut the small ball crap against this team. Play Zu 36 minutes and the other 12 minutes play Plumlee and Theis at the four. Less minutes to Paul George and TMann when we play them next. You just can't change habits after so many years in the NBA. Jesus, Paul George's shot selection. And that ridiculous alley opp pass to TMann on the 2 on 1 fast break. Has anyone ever seen a star who simply cannot run a basic two on one fast break? 'CA suggested Paul George for Rudy Gobert last year!' - Mistwell. Why would Westbrook ever try to go to the basket at 100 mph? Has he made a single layup like that this season? Can a team win a championship with two of the dumbest basketball players of all time? I’ve never seen Gobert look better than he did last night. Hell, he even knocked down all of his free throws. Yeah he was the best player on the floor. We need either Zu to be in there with him or be able to go 5 out and have him have to guard a shooter. He's too good to let him play free safety.
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Post by basketcase on Feb 13, 2024 11:12:22 GMT -8
Zu got abused out there last night. We have to get their bigs moving when we are on offense. We played right into their hands and let their bigs roam the paint, forcing us into relying on jump shots too much.
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Post by clipanswerman on Feb 13, 2024 12:10:14 GMT -8
Zu got abused out there last night. We have to get their bigs moving when we are on offense. We played right into their hands and let their bigs roam the paint, forcing us into relying on jump shots too much. Zu did not get abused out there. Plumlee got killed. Then Theis got annihilated in his five minutes. Five small guys on the perimeter with Gobert guarding one out there - forget it. Yes, it worked for a few plays in the playoffs a few years ago, but that's about it. You have to have a legit big against him. That's Zu.
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Post by hitnrun24 on Feb 13, 2024 12:32:57 GMT -8
Zu got abused out there last night. We have to get their bigs moving when we are on offense. We played right into their hands and let their bigs roam the paint, forcing us into relying on jump shots too much. Zu did not get abused out there. Plumlee got killed. Then Theis got annihilated in his five minutes. Five small guys on the perimeter with Gobert guarding one out there - forget it. Yes, it worked for a few plays in the playoffs a few years ago, but that's about it. You have to have a legit big against him. That's Zu. Yeah I thought Zu was the only big that held up. He's on a minute restriction so not much Lue can do right now, but once he's healthy he's gotta go to near 40 min of Zu if we play these guys. We can only play the 5 shooters lineup if PG/Kawhi are on the floor and the 5th guy is maybe Tucker as much as I hate to say it. Agree that Theis got smoked. Plumlee wasn't good, but he's been ok sometimes so I'd still try to see if he can make it work. But def no to small with Russ operating as basically the Center on offense, that's death. He was prob out of our price range, but this is why I wanted Olynyk. He's just hefty enough to survive in the non Zu minutes and a legitimate threat both inside and out. This wasn't lack of effort, we have real issues against size with some of the lineups we're running out. Maybe a non minute restriction Zu solves a lot of it, but we still need something in case he's in foul trouble.
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Post by corkscrew on Feb 13, 2024 12:44:28 GMT -8
Zu got abused out there last night. We have to get their bigs moving when we are on offense. We played right into their hands and let their bigs roam the paint, forcing us into relying on jump shots too much. Zu did not get abused out there. Plumlee got killed. Then Theis got annihilated in his five minutes. Five small guys on the perimeter with Gobert guarding one out there - forget it. Yes, it worked for a few plays in the playoffs a few years ago, but that's about it. You have to have a legit big against him. That's Zu.Yeah, but then you have KAT to deal with, plus that McDaniels guy, not to mention their all-star shooting guard who is only 15 lbs lighter than our biggest guy, Zu. We were abysmally outsized and they beat us up like a government mule. But we gave up all three of our PFs in the trade and we haven't bothered to replace them, so what choice do we have other than going small and keeping our fingers crossed that we can shoot lights out all night long?
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Post by clipanswerman on Feb 13, 2024 16:58:39 GMT -8
Zu did not get abused out there. Plumlee got killed. Then Theis got annihilated in his five minutes. Five small guys on the perimeter with Gobert guarding one out there - forget it. Yes, it worked for a few plays in the playoffs a few years ago, but that's about it. You have to have a legit big against him. That's Zu.Yeah, but then you have KAT to deal with, plus that McDaniels guy, not to mention their all-star shooting guard who is only 15 lbs lighter than our biggest guy, Zu. We were abysmally outsized and they beat us up like a government mule. But we gave up all three of our PFs in the trade and we haven't bothered to replace them, so what choice do we have other than going small and keeping our fingers crossed that we can shoot lights out all night long? KAT's a really good player but he's not all that - and he spends a lot of time on the perimeter. He'll get his against us but that's ok. We can still beat them. As for Jaden McDaniels and Anthony Edwards - between Kawhi, PG, Coffey even and a little Theis and Mann, we should be ok. We can beat them. But we have to be smart and play team ball. Every possession against them is important. Simply no room for Westbrook to go 1,000 mph into the basket and for PG to show off and take high-degree difficulty shots. Don't have that luxury here.
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Post by nuraman00 on Feb 23, 2024 13:09:42 GMT -8
Probably a combination of home court advantage and the fact that Minnesota is 6-4 in their last 10 games, having lost 4 to weaker teams like Charlotte, San Antonio, Orlando and Chicago. However, I also note that in that stretch they beat OKC, Dallas and Milwaukee… I would put Orlando in the same category as you did Dallas. Dallas has the 13th best record in the league, Orlando the 14th.
Orlando has the 4th best defense in the league.
They do struggle on the road, though.
Orlando has a better home record than Dallas. Orlando is 17 - 7. Dallas is 16-13.
corkscrew, thoughts. Would you recategorize Orlando, given that they were right next to Dallas in the standings when I made my post? 13th and 14th. You had previously categorized them as "weaker". When at the time of my post, they had almost the same record as Dallas. I would think Orlando and Dallas would either both be either in the weaker category, or the stronger category. Orlando just beat one of the hottest teams, in Cleveland, on the road, yesterday. The other teams you mentioned, San Antonio, Chicago, and Charlotte, and either lottery teams, or barely play-in teams. Orlando is on the border of being an outright playoffs team, or a play-in team. I could also see Orlando and Dallas both being in the weaker category, because they both only have one All-Star. Your other teams in the stronger category, Milwaukee and OKC, have some things going for them. Milwaukee has two All-Stars. And OKC's starting lineup is a lot better than Dallas and Orlando. So I could see Dallas and Orlando not being in the stronger category too. Maybe Orlando and Dallas should be in their own tier. They are not Milwaukee and OKC. They are not San Antonio, Charlotte, and Chicago. They are mid tier.
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