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Post by mistwell on Apr 8, 2024 10:27:16 GMT -8
Has anyone seen lawn jockeys before? Before the TV episode, in real life. Oh yes, for sure. They were extremely common in the 70-s in LA and earlier. I recall a kid knocking one over with his bike when I was young.
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Post by nuraman00 on Apr 8, 2024 10:39:36 GMT -8
Has anyone seen lawn jockeys before? Before the TV episode, in real life. Oh yes, for sure. They were extremely common in the 70-s in LA and earlier. I recall a kid knocking one over with his bike when I was young. Is a jockey associated with horse racing? Or is there another context for one? Is it racist to have a Black lawn jockey? Or is it no different than having different racial representation in dolls or action figures? So it could be seen as a celebration of diversity? Does lawn jockey mean it has to be a figure associated with horse racing? Or is it called a lawn ornament?
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Post by mistwell on Apr 8, 2024 11:17:20 GMT -8
Oh yes, for sure. They were extremely common in the 70-s in LA and earlier. I recall a kid knocking one over with his bike when I was young. Is a jockey associated with horse racing? Or is there another context for one? Is it racist to have a Black lawn jockey? Or is it no different than having different racial representation in dolls or action figures? So it could be seen as a celebration of diversity? Does lawn jockey mean it has to be a figure associated with horse racing? Or is it called a lawn ornament? Yes they were associated with horse racing I believe. They started as actual hitching posts. There was a specifically racist popular lawn jockey called Jocko. There were apparently some intended as not racist to celebrate some black jockeys, but I think that's been more lost to history with the sterotyped Jocko ones being more popular.
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Post by nuraman00 on Apr 8, 2024 12:17:34 GMT -8
Thanks.
Whenever you get a chance, thoughts on any of the episodes, including the season finale.
Or favorite moments, etc.
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Post by basketcase on Apr 8, 2024 15:39:23 GMT -8
The Mexican restaurant Jerry was at used to be across the street from where I work in DTLA. It's not there anymore. Wow. When was it filmed? So it closed between then and now? I want to say around last summer. I just saw they still have one in Santa Monica, so maybe it was filmed there, but it really looked like the one near where I work.
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Post by basketcase on Apr 8, 2024 15:48:39 GMT -8
Yes. So, what did you think? Perhaps also mention what you thought about the Seinfeld finale, since it's relevant. And we were not on a platform together, then. In general, I don't think clip shows make for a good finale, whether season finale, or series finale. And for the Seinfeld finale in particular, it took them too much out of their familiar setting of New York. The writing was also awkward, with a line by Geraldo about Elaine and Jerry possibly getting married. Which made no sense, but was probably trying to set up a red herring. There is a part of it which is exciting to see favorite characters resurrected. But I'd rather it be in the context of something new, rather than something old. Now for THIS Curb Your Enthusiasm season finale, there were at least some familiar elements, in the context of something new. Jeff and Larry had another scheme. Even Susie joined in on a scheme. Leon had another interesting commentary about dicks. This finale was more uplifting, because we got to see the characters as themselves, at the end, and not in a depressing setting of a jail cell. But on an airplane. The thing about the fly, as well as Jerry Seinfeld not having time for a courtesy meet and greet, are also normal elements of this show. So the good thing is, this show had more of its familiar elements. I think I would have preferred a setting around LA, since that's what the show is known for. And perhaps a setting where Larry runs into characters there. But not have him on trial. Or, the clip show element is a mixed bag to me. It's a necessary reminder, but also keeps the focus on the past, instead of the present or future. I'd rather just have a "normal" setting. But with top level writing. I think it's hard to wrap up shows like Curb and Seinfeld. There aren't consistent plots that need to be resolved. I think they both showed the circles the characters keep going in, because they don't learn anything. Seinfeld ended with the first conversation from the first episode and Curb almost ended with the pant tent, which was the first scene of the show. But Curb still ended with all the characters carrying on like they always do. I don't think either finale was amazing, but I still enjoyed them both. They both tried to do too much.
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Post by nuraman00 on Apr 8, 2024 16:06:50 GMT -8
Yes. So, what did you think? Perhaps also mention what you thought about the Seinfeld finale, since it's relevant. And we were not on a platform together, then. In general, I don't think clip shows make for a good finale, whether season finale, or series finale. And for the Seinfeld finale in particular, it took them too much out of their familiar setting of New York. The writing was also awkward, with a line by Geraldo about Elaine and Jerry possibly getting married. Which made no sense, but was probably trying to set up a red herring. There is a part of it which is exciting to see favorite characters resurrected. But I'd rather it be in the context of something new, rather than something old. Now for THIS Curb Your Enthusiasm season finale, there were at least some familiar elements, in the context of something new. Jeff and Larry had another scheme. Even Susie joined in on a scheme. Leon had another interesting commentary about dicks. This finale was more uplifting, because we got to see the characters as themselves, at the end, and not in a depressing setting of a jail cell. But on an airplane. The thing about the fly, as well as Jerry Seinfeld not having time for a courtesy meet and greet, are also normal elements of this show. So the good thing is, this show had more of its familiar elements. I think I would have preferred a setting around LA, since that's what the show is known for. And perhaps a setting where Larry runs into characters there. But not have him on trial. Or, the clip show element is a mixed bag to me. It's a necessary reminder, but also keeps the focus on the past, instead of the present or future. I'd rather just have a "normal" setting. But with top level writing. I think it's hard to wrap up shows like Curb and Seinfeld. There aren't consistent plots that need to be resolved. I think they both showed the circles the characters keep going in, because they don't learn anything. Seinfeld ended with the first conversation from the first episode and Curb almost ended with the pant tent, which was the first scene of the show. But Curb still ended with all the characters carrying on like they always do. I don't think either finale was amazing, but I still enjoyed them both. They both tried to do too much. Yeah, I think that's a detriment. One of the series finales I liked was Psych. The characters worked on a case, just like they've done in every other episode. I think familiar setting, showing the characters going in the circles they always go in, is the better approach. I thought Frasier also had a good series finale. But the tone for that show is different than Curb. For Seinfeld, possibly my favorite season finale was "The Opposite". If they could have made an episode like that for the series finale, I think it would have captured what the show was about too.
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Post by nuraman00 on Apr 8, 2024 16:07:27 GMT -8
Why was Jerry at the Mexican restaurant, when he doesn't like Mexican food? Or was he just passing by?
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Post by mistwell on Apr 8, 2024 16:20:14 GMT -8
Thanks. Whenever you get a chance, thoughts on any of the episodes, including the season finale. Or favorite moments, etc. I am a bit behind but not too bad. Should catch up in the next couple weeks.
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Post by nuraman00 on Apr 8, 2024 17:26:05 GMT -8
Thanks. Whenever you get a chance, thoughts on any of the episodes, including the season finale. Or favorite moments, etc. I am a bit behind but not too bad. Should catch up in the next couple weeks. What sort of compensation did you get, for having them film your house?
Someone once wanted to use my cousin's kitchen for a photoshoot. He and his wife got a bunch of ham, cheese, crackers, and snacks.
The photoshoot was for ham, I think.
There was some money, too.
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Post by mistwell on Apr 8, 2024 18:02:26 GMT -8
I am a bit behind but not too bad. Should catch up in the next couple weeks. What sort of compensation did you get, for having them film your house?
Someone once wanted to use my cousin's kitchen for a photoshoot. He and his wife got a bunch of ham, cheese, crackers, and snacks.
The photoshoot was for ham, I think.
There was some money, too.
They were very generous. More generous than pretty much any filming we've had in 14 years. All they did was park their portal bathroom unit (not a porta potty) and wardrobe truck on the street next to our house for a day. I think it was $1200 or something. We usually get 10% of that.
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Post by mistwell on Apr 8, 2024 18:03:55 GMT -8
We're on the episode with the cheese and Larry goes to the Beverly Hills Cheese Store. That is a GREAT store. I've been going for years, though usually only once or twice a year. I took a class once from the owner, who is named Norbert (who can be seen in the back). His title is cheesemonger. He travels the world looking for great cheeses and has a thousand stories about cheeses he's found in the back country of Italy, France, Spain, etc..
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Post by mistwell on Apr 8, 2024 21:11:51 GMT -8
Finished the season. I liked that ending. Certainly more than the Seinfeld ending.
I was surprised Richard Lewis was on it right up until the final episode. He must have died pretty shortly after they stopped filming.
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Post by basketcase on Apr 8, 2024 21:24:31 GMT -8
Why was Jerry at the Mexican restaurant, when he doesn't like Mexican food? Or was he just passing by? I thought it was Cheryl that didn't like Mexican food. Or are you referring to real life?
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Post by nuraman00 on Apr 8, 2024 21:49:08 GMT -8
We're on the episode with the cheese and Larry goes to the Beverly Hills Cheese Store. That is a GREAT store. I've been going for years, though usually only once or twice a year. I took a class once from the owner, who is named Norbert (who can be seen in the back). His title is cheesemonger. He travels the world looking for great cheeses and has a thousand stories about cheeses he's found in the back country of Italy, France, Spain, etc.. What do you find there that isn't really found elsewhere, or is in general hard to find? What are some of your favorites?
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