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Post by nuraman00 on Sept 14, 2018 13:33:12 GMT -8
Maybe it will be 4 months from now.
Maybe it will be 23 months from now.
But if DoubleTechnical is still alive, he'll bring it back.
He's put too much into it, to let it die. Plus, even as of a 3 months ago, he said "I love ClipperTalk".
He might not have posted any real comments in over a year, but I think his passion for both web design, and the Clippers, is still there.
If he's still alive, something must be occupying him right now, for him to not respond to any emails, or the one text I tried (I'd never texted him before).
If he suffered some major or fatal physical injury, then probably not.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2018 9:46:45 GMT -8
Will it really matter if it does come back?
There is no way to get the community to venture back.
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Post by nuraman00 on Sept 17, 2018 10:37:00 GMT -8
Will it really matter if it does come back?There is no way to get the community to venture back.
* All he has to do is send out an email blast. He has everyone's registered email address. Hopefully he can figure out a way to collect them and send one out.
Maybe through the PM system he has.
* I'm the type of person that checks old bookmarks and sites, months afterwards, to see if they're ever back up. So some people will find it.
* I'm part of another forum. More than 2 years ago, the old server was taken down. 1.5 years after it was taken down, someone else bought the domain and put a redirect to the new forum.
2 people found their way to the new forum, through the redirect, even though it wasn't even up until 1.5 years after the server went down.
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Post by mistwell on Oct 23, 2018 7:15:50 GMT -8
Well, "something" changed. Instead of just a long delay before finally saying the page cannot be reached, it's now a very quick "Webpage not available; The webpage could not be loaded because:
Proxy Error"
So maybe he's working on it?
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Post by clippers1121 on Oct 23, 2018 7:37:09 GMT -8
He isn't necessarily dead. He could have gotten married, had children, got a new job. There are any number of reasons why somebody would choose to not continue to administer a web site. He didn't seem passionate about the Clipper to me. He rarely posted anything about the team and he rarely posted in any of the game threads. I don't know why he started the web site in the first place with that little passion about the team. I assume the site is gone and not coming back. And like Rhy alluded to, even if it did come back much of the community is scattered and would not come back even if the site did come back up. For me personally I do not trust the guy anymore and would not post there again even if it did come back.
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Post by prince2250 on Oct 23, 2018 9:14:27 GMT -8
He isn't necessarily dead. He could have gotten married, had children, got a new job. There are any number of reasons why somebody would choose to not continue to administer a web site. He didn't seem passionate about the Clipper to me. He rarely posted anything about the team and he rarely posted in any of the game threads. I don't know why he started the web site in the first place with that little passion about the team. I assume the site is gone and not coming back. And like Rhy alluded to, even if it did come back much of the community is scattered and would not come back even if the site did come back up. For me personally I do not trust the guy anymore and would not post there again even if it did come back. That's a pretty cold way to look at things. Let's reserve judgement until we know what really happened. |
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Post by clippers1121 on Oct 23, 2018 9:26:09 GMT -8
Saying somebody just lost interest in maintaining a web site and moved on to other things is not cold. It is the best case scenario for double technical. I do think he should have posted a notice or something on the URL that stated his intentions. I hope that is what happened. To imply that the only reason the site is down is because he died or got injured is a lot less likely in my opinion. My history with the guy is that he was very indifferent about the Clippers and the games that were played. So he did not strike me as much of a fan. Maybe he was just a web master looking for a community that he knew and could build out. When our user growth stalled maybe he just lost interest.
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Post by mistwell on Oct 23, 2018 10:32:10 GMT -8
I want it to come back in the very least just so we can put a message up there to tell people to come here. We lost some users who I think we'd get back if we were able to do that.
As far as why he stated the board I believe he said he did it as a project for school, to show he could build a message board.
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Post by nuraman00 on Oct 23, 2018 10:33:59 GMT -8
Maybe you're not remembering his posts. He didn't post much, but when he did, there was passion.
* He was a CJ Wilcox advocate. If someone said CJ Wilcox sucked, he'd say that Doc wasn't giving him a chance.
* He posted a picture of him meeting Ralph Lawler at a Wizards game in DC. He recounted the story of how he was near the side, and when he passed by, he asked for a picture. Lawler said "quickly, but ok."
* He had a looooong post before one of the playoffs games in 2012 or 2013, about how the Clippers needed a win. He promised he'd go to church if the Clippers won.
* When DeAndre Jordan had that first point scored outside the paint, in his career, he said that was more amazing then DeAndre making a single FT.
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Post by nuraman00 on Oct 23, 2018 10:43:26 GMT -8
I want it to come back in the very least just so we can put a message up there to tell people to come here. We lost some users who I think we'd get back if we were able to do that. As far as why he stated the board I believe he said he did it as a project for school, to show he could build a message board. Not exactly. Here's the history. * There used to be an old site run by someone else, called ClipperTalk.net (not .com). * That died in 2008. * Around the same time, he bought the ClipperTalk.com domain. He started building the site. But it was a project. It wasn't for public use, since everyone was still on the ESPN boards, including him. I remember some of his ESPN posts too. * In July of 2011, ESPN changed board formats to what is dis-affectionately known as "ESPN Robust". It sucked. Those of us on the ESPN boards decided that we needed to migrate. We considered a few options. He jumped in and presented his site, but also said it was "new" and still under development. He posted it in the thread where we were considering options. I might still have a copy/paste of all of the options we were considering, that I might have saved for my own records. I looked at it, and asked if it had a few features which I liked on message boards. He answered my questions and explained how to use some of the features. Again, all of this was in the thread. We then made the migration to ClipperTalk.com He also stated then, and has re-iterated many times, that it was a perfect marriage of two of his passions, web development and the Clippers. As far as why he doesn't post much in game threads, he's lived out of market since 2012. He's posted in some game threads at SLC since then, when he would attend those in person. It's possible he didn't get League Pass, or a DVR, during some of those years. So he might have been restricted to national TV games. And if he didn't have a good enough subscription package, maybe he didn't get those games either. A few months ago, I started a "Clipper Nation" thread, and kept track of everyone who had attended a road Clippers game since 2006 ( v-ice at game 7 against Phoenix). So in that thread, I had tracked down which games DoubleTechnical had attended on the road (SLC, Washington DC), too. But in general, it's harder for someone out of market to follow the Clippers. |
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Post by nuraman00 on Oct 23, 2018 10:46:54 GMT -8
Well, "something" changed. Instead of just a long delay before finally saying the page cannot be reached, it's now a very quick "Webpage not available; The webpage could not be loaded because: Proxy Error" So maybe he's working on it? I see what you're saying. It is different now. Right now, it sounds like a registration problem with the domain. Perhaps he is switching domains. Maybe they raised the rate on his domain renewal (even though it's registered through June 2020). Maybe he is finding a cheaper domain, and migrating the board to that domain. And then he is de-registering ClipperTalk.com. Just a possibility. |
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Post by mistwell on Oct 23, 2018 10:57:26 GMT -8
My guess is there was a catastrophic failure of the hard drive it's hosted on and he is going to migrate somewhere else. But he'd need to set it all back up again from an old backup copy or, at worst, from scratch. And that's such a pain in the butt I would guess he's just been putting it off. But now that the new season has finally begun, it's probably higher on his to-do list.
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Post by nuraman00 on Oct 23, 2018 12:21:52 GMT -8
My guess is there was a catastrophic failure of the hard drive it's hosted on and he is going to migrate somewhere else. But he'd need to set it all back up again from an old backup copy or, at worst, from scratch. And that's such a pain in the butt I would guess he's just been putting it off. But now that the new season has finally begun, it's probably higher on his to-do list. Good guess. He switched to an AWS Amazon server in 2014, after the board was down for a few weeks to start the calendar year. Do you think they would have had it backed up on a backup server? |
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Post by nuraman00 on Oct 23, 2018 12:26:00 GMT -8
The way I see it, is that something either happened due to:
1) A life event. (Death; severe injury; moving out of the country; etc.)
2) An IT problem. (Server or hard drive crash, hacked, etc.)
Even if he didn't post much during the past year, I don't think the problem was a lack of passion or disinterest. Even as late as May, he posted in a thread "I love ClipperTalk".
If it's a life event, there's a chance he can't get it up and running right now, either due to physical reasons, or time commitment reasons.
If it's an IT problem, then maybe he is working on it. But it's a complicated problem that needs some work both on his end, and his host's end, so it will take a while.
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Post by mistwell on Oct 23, 2018 12:35:34 GMT -8
Wow, OK I know what the new message is about now. Go to a fresh browser and enter www.clippertalk.com as the url. You will find it forwards automatically HERE now. It's now working without the www part, which is too bad. But, if you put the full url in, it's now auto forwarding here. So...he knows about us here. |
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