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Post by basketcase on Jul 4, 2023 11:00:09 GMT -8
I don’t think anything happens with Harden until Lillard’s situation is resolved. Sixers still want him and don’t want to restrict their options. Unless it is all part of one big deal.
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Post by hitnrun24 on Jul 4, 2023 12:17:41 GMT -8
There's no fucking way Boston is the hold up. Morey also seems to be being petty here, he can probably do more to improve the roster if he does it sooner rather than the limited options he'd have in September by trying to squeeze the most he can out of a trade. He's probably on a bit of a hot seat here. But I agree that Lillard is probably the piece that will need to shake out first and I think Morey is trying to see what he can get from other teams to give Portland the best offer, but he doesn't have the leverage he thinks he has with Harden. What other team is going to offer much for him after he's requested this many trades? The only thing he may get is a decent player that another team doesn't want/or doesn't want to be there anymore and therefore willing to trade for 1 year of unhappy Harden.
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Post by v-ice on Jul 4, 2023 15:00:16 GMT -8
The good thing about Harden he stays healthy.
Plus he’s a great passer. Does handle the ball much better than George.
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Post by v-ice on Jul 5, 2023 14:18:09 GMT -8
The Clippers have been reluctant to include Terance Mann and draft capital in any potential trade package to the Sixers for James Harden, per
@zachlowe_NBA
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Post by tullabye on Jul 5, 2023 15:15:57 GMT -8
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Post by gilp5 on Jul 5, 2023 15:38:09 GMT -8
Yes agree. Maybe something like what the Lakers gave up for D'Angelo would be fair. Bones or Coffey or Boston would be ok to include. |
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Post by v-ice on Jul 5, 2023 16:14:06 GMT -8
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Post by hitnrun24 on Jul 5, 2023 16:45:07 GMT -8
I'd love to get Harden for nothing but expirings, but I'm not sure Philly's going to do it if we don't give them something to feel good about. Would another team be willing to trade one of their unhappy stars for Harden even if he doesn't want to go there? Unlikely, and I like that we're using our leverage but Morey also showed if he can't get the trade he wants he'll just sit on the player. I even saw a report that we wouldn't even be willing to put Boston in the deal, which I doubt, but if that's the case we're hard balling the shit out of them.
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Post by tullabye on Jul 5, 2023 17:10:37 GMT -8
I'd love to get Harden for nothing but expirings, but I'm not sure Philly's going to do it if we don't give them something to feel good about. Would another team be willing to trade one of their unhappy stars for Harden even if he doesn't want to go there? Unlikely, and I like that we're using our leverage but Morey also showed if he can't get the trade he wants he'll just sit on the player. I even saw a report that we wouldn't even be willing to put Boston in the deal, which I doubt, but if that's the case we're hard balling the shit out of them. Morey’s got no leverage. Does Embid want all the drama of having an unhappy and unwilling Harden around? Besides he got Harden for Simmons. The whole league knows Harden will be 33 and looking to get paid again next year. Don’t give up any assets or draft capital for him. Hold tight. |
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Post by hitnrun24 on Jul 5, 2023 21:16:24 GMT -8
I'd love to get Harden for nothing but expirings, but I'm not sure Philly's going to do it if we don't give them something to feel good about. Would another team be willing to trade one of their unhappy stars for Harden even if he doesn't want to go there? Unlikely, and I like that we're using our leverage but Morey also showed if he can't get the trade he wants he'll just sit on the player. I even saw a report that we wouldn't even be willing to put Boston in the deal, which I doubt, but if that's the case we're hard balling the shit out of them. Morey’s got no leverage. Does Embid want all the drama of having an unhappy and unwilling Harden around? Besides he got Harden for Simmons. The whole league knows Harden will be 33 and looking to get paid again next year. Don’t give up any assets or draft capital for him. Hold tight. Agree, I don't even hear other teams come up. They've resorted to saying they may try to get him to reconsider staying for another year. Probably a negotiation tactic, but they could be waiting to see how the Lillard situation shakes out. |
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Post by gilp5 on Jul 5, 2023 21:19:44 GMT -8
Morey’s got no leverage. Does Embid want all the drama of having an unhappy and unwilling Harden around? Besides he got Harden for Simmons. The whole league knows Harden will be 33 and looking to get paid again next year. Don’t give up any assets or draft capital for him. Hold tight. Agree, I don't even hear other teams come up. They've resorted to saying they may try to get him to reconsider staying for another year. Probably a negotiation tactic, but they could be waiting to see how the Lillard situation shakes out. Harden staying another year in Philly might be a better option for them than some combination of Morris/Powell/Covington/Batum. Clippers have to give them some incentive that is better than Harden staying in Philly. Maybe Bones and/or a protected first can do it, combined with taking one of their contracts. |
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Post by v-ice on Jul 5, 2023 21:43:02 GMT -8
Harden will cause problems.
He needs to be traded for what we offer.
Mann, MorrisSr, Powell & RoCo.
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Post by gilp5 on Jul 5, 2023 21:55:32 GMT -8
Harden will cause problems. He needs to be traded for what we offer. Mann, MorrisSr, Powell & RoCo. They aren't offering Mann. |
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Post by tullabye on Jul 5, 2023 23:45:45 GMT -8
Harden will cause problems. He needs to be traded for what we offer. Mann, MorrisSr, Powell & RoCo. not happening. Isn’t that about 60 M in salary? |
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Post by tullabye on Jul 7, 2023 19:19:14 GMT -8
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