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Post by nuraman00 on Feb 6, 2019 15:57:49 GMT -8
For comparison's sake, what are the best packages Boston and Portland can do?
I'd assume New Orleans would want back both Nurkic and McCollum, and not just Nurkic, from Portland.
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Post by nuraman00 on Feb 6, 2019 15:59:56 GMT -8
And what can New York offer?
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Post by trapp76 on Feb 6, 2019 16:04:41 GMT -8
For comparison's sake, what are the best packages Boston and Portland can do? I'd assume New Orleans would want back both Nurkic and McCollum, and not just Nurkic, from Portland. Boston and Portland are not on the list of teams he would re-sign with. I have no idea what the Knicks could offer......but they can't include Dennis Smith Jr. in any trade package until the off-season. |
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Post by nuraman00 on Feb 6, 2019 16:06:35 GMT -8
If the Bucks resign Middleton to a reasonable contract, could they get Davis in 2020? They only have 5 players under contract for 2020-2021. www.spotrac.com/nba/milwaukee-bucks/yearly/cap/I see Bledsoe is a FA in 2019. They're going to have to decide what to do with Bledsoe and Middleton. Keeping both means no Davis in 2020. Keeping one gives them the chance at Davis. Davis isn't going to sign an extension, and wants to explore FA in 2020, so he'll keep his options open. |
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Post by nuraman00 on Feb 6, 2019 16:12:13 GMT -8
For comparison's sake, what are the best packages Boston and Portland can do? I'd assume New Orleans would want back both Nurkic and McCollum, and not just Nurkic, from Portland. I have no idea what the Knicks could offer......but they can't include Dennis Smith Jr. in any trade package until the off-season. That's what he says now. But if Portland had him for 1.5 years, there's a chance he could like it. I don't think 1 year would be enough though. 1.5 years gives Portland 2 playoffs runs. Also, JMO, but it was Anthony Davis dad that said no to Boston, not Anthony Davis himself. His dad, and Lavar Ball's comments might not mean much. It matters more what Anthony Davis / Lonzo Ball think themselves. |
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Post by gilp5 on Feb 6, 2019 16:25:17 GMT -8
Boston and Portland are not on the list of teams he would re-sign with.I have no idea what the Knicks could offer......but they can't include Dennis Smith Jr. in any trade package until the off-season. That's what he says now. But if Portland had him for 1.5 years, there's a chance he could like it. I don't think 1 year would be enough though. 1.5 years gives Portland 2 playoffs runs. Also, JMO, but it was Anthony Davis dad that said no to Boston, not Anthony Davis himself. His dad, and Lavar Ball's comments might not mean much. It matters more what Anthony Davis / Lonzo Ball think themselves. I think a portland or a denver would roll the dice on him like OKC/Toronto did with their trades. They have no other options to get over the hump. |
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Post by mistwell on Feb 6, 2019 16:26:03 GMT -8
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Post by nuraman00 on Feb 6, 2019 16:34:27 GMT -8
To add to the Davis / Bucks scenario, I think the Bucks should let Bledsoe go in 2019, and make Brogdon the primary ball handler. Then they can re-sign Middleton, and I think still have cap space for Davis in 2020. jglanton , do you think that would work with Brogdon? |
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Post by gilp5 on Feb 6, 2019 16:37:28 GMT -8
Does anyone have ESPN plus and can post the draft grades?
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Post by clippers1121 on Feb 6, 2019 16:37:51 GMT -8
Great to hear that the Sacramento Kings pick isn't going to be any good in the upcoming draft. If that were a number two or three pick it would have been very valuable. If it is #16 not so much. We play Boston twice in upcoming games and to lose to them helps us and hurts them. Interesting side effect of the trade. I think if the Knicks got the number one pick than all of a sudden they have an asset that could net them AD if that Duke kid is as good as he looks on film.
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Post by nuraman00 on Feb 6, 2019 16:40:03 GMT -8
Does anyone have ESPN plus and can post the draft grades? I asked the same thing earlier in this thread.  |
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Post by tullabye on Feb 6, 2019 17:05:11 GMT -8
On the Miami pick. 2021 is the year the league said could end the 1 and done rule. So it's expected to be a loaded draft with top players from two high school classes. It's a good year to have an unprotected pick. Very interesting, good point. In my opinion, SGA is going to end up being better than any of the middling young players the Lakers have when all is said and done and while the Miami pick could end up in the 20s or the teens, it could also end up being the #1 pick. You don't get that chance with any of the Laker picks, especially if you are giving them AD in his prime to pair with Lebron. If you're the Pelicans, you don't want any picks from the team you are trading AD to, you want picks that belong to other teams, otherwise you're damaging your own pick (assuming it's a future pick and not already slotted). The Lakers don't own any picks that belong to other teams, they only own their own picks, which would all be very low value if they are getting AD. So not only do the Clippers own the best young player between the two packages (SGA), they also own BY FAR the best draft pick asset (the MIA pick) and the best NBA ready established players that they can send back (Gallo/Lou), while the Lakers can only offer their own low value picks and garbage heap players like Lance and Beasley. They have to sell the Pelicans on the possibility that Ingram/Ball/Kuzma is so much better than SGA/Robinson/Harrell that it can make up the difference between the pick values and vet player values. Could the Pelicans buy that? Sure they could, but you could make a decent argument either way I think. So, here are your two packages side by side (other smaller pieces could be included, but this would be the main core of the packages): Clippers: SGA (20) (cost controlled 3 more seasons and then RFA) Robinson (21) (cost controlled 3 more seasons and then RFA) Harrell (25) (cost controlled 1 more season and then UFA) MIA Pick Unprotected (Could be as high as the number 1 pick) Gallo Lakers: Ingram (21) (cost controlled 1 more season and then RFA) Ball (21) (and his dad) (cost controlled 2 more seasons and then RFA) Kuzma (23) (cost controlled 2 more seasons and then RFA) LAL Pick (guaranteed not to be a high pick and ZERO chance to even be a lottery pick) Lance/Beasley Has this been reported as the Clipper offer or just speculation. I don’t want to include Harrell. |
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Post by mistwell on Feb 6, 2019 17:25:32 GMT -8
Nothing has been reported. Not even interest by the Clippers in AD has been reported. As far as we know, this is all fantasyland and Jerry and Lawrence think we're all nuts for even talking about AD when they have other players in mind.
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Post by trapp76 on Feb 6, 2019 17:47:06 GMT -8
Nothing has been reported. Not even interest by the Clippers in AD has been reported. As far as we know, this is all fantasyland and Jerry and Lawrence think we're all nuts for even talking about AD when they have other players in mind. You better believe they are interested in AD. |
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Post by corkscrew on Feb 6, 2019 18:06:30 GMT -8
If you ask me which of these 3 players -- Durant, Kawhi, or AD -- I would rather have for the next 1-2 years, it would be Durant. If you ask me which I'd rather have for the next 6-8 years, it would be AD in a heartbeat.
AD is the big fish every team should want to catch.
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